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What a difference a working turbo makes!
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sandnut
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 Thu Aug 28th, 2008 11:45 pm
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Apparently my Turbonetics has been blown up for a while, I just didn't notice it.  I put the stocker back on this past weekend & the truck actually moves now.  Cleans up the smoke nicely, EGT's are lower & climb much slower. The TN unit is under warranty, although I don't know how much that'll help.  I'll get it sent in next week then probably wait for a while to get it back.  Once I do, I'll try & sell it, but I doubt I'll have much luck, we'll see.  I think I'll buy an ATS compressor housing, try to find an OE compressor wheel (I've got a wicked wheel right now, anyone want to trade for stock?), and maybe put a 1.0 turbine housing on it.  That ought to do just fine.  I kept the high flow outlet (EBPV delete) & non EBPV pedestal.  I think those together with the Turbo Master Wastegate controller help a lot with keeping the EGT's down.
Oil temps dropped maybe 5 degrees, so they're still a little high, but we'll see how it tows tomorrow.



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 Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 11:48 pm
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that's great news!! what is it that you think was bad?....



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 Fri Aug 29th, 2008 12:03 am
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I did a boost leak test before I took everything apart & at about 15 psi, something near the turbo started making a high pitched squeal, like the sound that is used for old TV test patterns. The pressure dropped like a rock too, so I know there was a leak somewhere. I sprayed the boots on the plenums first, but there was no leaking there. Sprayed all the other IC boots & nothing. So I sprayed the entire turbo. Nothing. I thought maybe the new IC had a hole, but the noise was for sure coming from the turbo/pedestal area. I don't know what it was, maybe air escaping through the shaft area & going down the oil passages, or out the DP, I don't know. When I got it off, there was no oil in the compressor or turbine, but if felt like there was a little play in the shaft, and when I tried to spin the compressor wheel, it would move, but the second my finger broke contact with the wheel, the movement stopped. A ball bearing turbo should spin for several seconds, even the stock (journal bearing) turbo spins freely for a few seconds. So that's why it doesn't spool up, doesn't clear up the smoke, keeps my EGT's high, etc. For what I'm doing, the stock turbo with the mods I mentioned above are plenty. Now if I ever decide to put in some real rods...

Last edited on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 12:05 am by sandnut



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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 12:04 am
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With the OE turbo installed, there are no boost leaks, so if there was something with a boot, I fixed it. The IC is good & the bad turbo is gone.



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 Fri Aug 29th, 2008 12:09 am
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ROCK ON BRO!!! :yeah



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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:29 am
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Ben, didn't you install that turbo pretty recently? How did you go about doing the actual boost leak test? I've never seen it done before.



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 Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:37 am
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The turbo went in sometime in October. There have been a lot of problems with it, so much so that apparently Turbonetics has stopped making them.
As far as the test, I have this. You put it on the turbo, attach an air compressor & slowly pump some air in it, then look for leaks using soapwater. there is some leakdown, as air escapes through the cylinder with open valves, but a boost leak loses pressure really quick.



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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:47 am
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Ah, ok, Thats real similar to a plumbing leakdown test plug setup. Hey are you sure the turbo wasn't made in China?,,, look for the stamp,,,:sl



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 Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:25 pm
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Hey Ben glad your gettin it worked thru, thanks again for the oil sensor it seems to have solved the problem.

shawn



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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:03 pm
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good to hear shawn.



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 Sat Aug 30th, 2008 06:40 am
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glad to hear youve finally figured it out!!!!



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 Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 04:04 am
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hmm i dont like that seeing as i have the turbonetics.................................. glad to hear your happy again though
did you buy yours from bwd?



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